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5. he came to be loud and disrupt community. We are used to this kind of behavior, he was ignored, he made a fool of himself, then he left (probably to go drink more).
Yeah, the anti LNGers would never ever go to a hearing or commissioners meetings and be loud, disruptive or make fools of themselves and then go drink more.
1. Earth First was invited to Astoria by local youth who wanted to hear about radical environmentalism, not by any main stream group or by any of the liberal middle aged folks you listed. The LNG movement was invited to the event, NOT the other way around.
2. A few kids come into town and talk about the environment and y'all flip out like the end of the world is here. What are you so afraid of? They talk about community, nature, hunting and fishing, protecting our land, and keeping the federal government and LNG companies from texas from destroying rural oregon. Are you afraid they might actually get somewhere, with this common sense talk? I thought conservatives cared about the places they lived in! I thought conservatives stood up and told the feds to butt out of their business and keep government small! I guess the conservative movement has been hijacked by big government, pro-business, socialists!
3. No one has ever died from an Earth First action. No EF action has hurt humans, period. Would you like to provide some evidence for these completely baseless accusations? Earth first practices civil rights style nonviolent civil disobedience but I would imagine that 50 years ago all you people moaning so much about this would have opposed rights for blacks as well.
4. Earth First does not advocate property destruction or burning buildings. You should research the Earth Liberation Front, as they do actually promote those things you are so afraid of. Maybe you should go disrupt their puppet shows?
5. No one really cared about the heckler, he came to be loud and disrupt community. We are used to this kind of behavior, he was ignored, he made a fool of himself, then he left (probably to go drink more). The slideshow and puppets continued regardless. Puppets, so scary!
1) Yeah, sure, and the parks in Astoria were in danger of LNG pipes running through them before measure 4-123 was dumped on a special ballot by Auerbach and voted down. No one has named any "middle aged" people. They are all OLD FOGEYS (thank GAWD)
2) LOL! LOL! I thought all you pot smoking, liberals had some edumacation (as long as we are trading crass, stereotypical, generalities). Big business is the "new" socialism, eh? And retired librarians in their sixties are "middle-aged"!!! Interesting talking point. Get enough media to byte into it and you just might pull it off. But doesn't it EVER bother you that YOU have become the very people you pretend to despise? Liars, spinners of truth, dream stealers?
3) Some job challenged idiots that HAVE harmed loggers by nailing trees. That HAVE harmed families by disrupting their ability to work, to earn money, to support their families. THAT IS harming a family when someone spouts LIES about a spotted owl only being able to live in old growth, for instance, when ANYONE who has spent time in the woods will show you their nests in STICKER BUSH THICKETS. For more information on tree spiking and what it has done to harm loggers read her. Maybe you should do a bit of research yourself.
This grisly accident sent shock waves through our community, and eventually led Northern California Earth First! to renounce tree spiking. Southern Oregon and Southern Willamette Earth First! joined us, as well as a few Earth First!ers from Stumptown, but that's all.
The rest of Earth First! still endorses spiking, and many of them even today react to our no-spiking policy by denouncing us as traitors and dismissing us as wimps, without ever considering the reasons for our actions. Because of this, because there are so many new Earth First!ers who don't know this history, I think it is time to re-examine the issue of tree-spiking. A few years ago, George Alexander and his wife Laurie agreed to talk to me about the 1987 incident. The following account is based on my conversation with them.
"I was the perfect victim," began George Alexander, "I was nobody." George, a lifetime Mendocino County resident and son of an old-time Willits logger, was 23 years old and just married, with his wife Laurie three months pregnant at the time of the accident. George's job at the mill was called off-bearer. The off-bearer operates a huge band saw that makes the first rough cut on logs as they come into the mill, sectioning off slices of wood that will later be cut to standard lengths and planed for finished lumber.
Off-bearer is one of the most dangerous jobs in the mill. The saw that George Alexander worked on was sized for old-growth logs-52 feet around, with a ten-inch blade of high tensile steel. "That saw was so powerful that when you turned it off you could make three more cuts through a 20-foot log before it stopped," George told me. One of the dangers of working as off-bearer is that if the blade hits a hard knot or metal debris (from old fences, choker chains, nails, etc., embedded in the wood), the sawteeth can break. To protect against this, workers have to wear a heavy face mask and stay on the alert, checking each log as it goes through...
Normally when a big tree is sawed, they start from the outside and square off the edges first. But the tree that George was sawing on May 8, 1987 was a 12-inch pecker-pole, and because it was so small he took the first cut down the middle. Halfway through the 20-foot log, the saw hit a 60-penny nail. "That nail must have been recently placed and countersunk," George told me. He had checked the log when he started cutting it and had seen no sign of the metal. And because he hit the nail square-on, there was no warning sound. "Usually there's a high-pitched metal sound and you have time to get out of the way," explained George. "This time I didn't hear nothing but 'BOOM!'"
The next thing he knew, George was lying on the floor covered with his own blood. "I knew I was dying. And all I could think about was thingy Edwards, and all the nuts he gave me when I complained about the saw. I tried to get up, but they pushed me back down. I tried to beckon to Edwards so he would come close enough for me to get my hands around his throat in a death grip. If I had to die, I wanted to take that bastard with me."
A 12-foot section of the huge sawblade had broken off and hit George in the throat and face, ripping through his face mask and cutting into his jugular vein. His jaw was broken in five places and a dozen teeth were knocked out. The blade was wrapped around him, and his co-workers had to blowtorch it off while they tried to keep him from bleeding to death.
"The saw hit me flat," said George. "If it had hit me with the teeth I'd be dead. I'm only here because my friend Rich Phillips held my veins together in the hour before the ambulance came."
3) And no, I wasn't against my family having less rights 50 years ago, you prejudice, racist, ignorant ass. Your white, superiority complex is so blatant at this point that you make me gag. Next you will "discover" you're a cherokee princess and start speaking for the "mother river". Don't try it with me, I will slap you down.
4) You have got to be kidding me. Now I think you must be a member of the Sierra Club trying to show up Earth First! just wanting them to look soooo bad that the Sierra Club looks sane in comparison. The Earth First! "bible" is nothing but a handbook of how to do sabotage, in very harmful ways:
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Every industry has its trade rags, and the leading magazine for the environmental fringe is the Earth First! Journal. Unsuspecting magazine browsers in mainstream bookstores might stumble across the Journal, which provides tactical information and motivation to saboteurs -- while singing the praises of Earth First!ers who destroy fishing boats, genetically modified crops, and logging equipment.
The Journal features articles by some of America's most violent eco-terrorists. One issue, for example, included an essay by convicted arsonist Jeffrey Luers about "Why I set a fire at [Eugene, Oregon's] Romania Chevrolet." The same issue included a treatise titled "The Non-violent Use of Gunpowder."
"By every means necessary we will bring this and every other empire down! Mutiny and sabotage in defense of Mother Earth!" screamed another recent article condemning the war in Iraq. Elsewhere in that same issue: "A snitch is no longer entitled to basic expectations of safety. As such, it is righteous to hurt them, burn down their house or do similarly naughty things to them."
In 2000, the 20th Anniversary issue of the Earth First! Journal bragged: "The simple idea of putting the earth first had drawn expanding crowds of hippies, anarchists, animal rights activists and all sorts of riffraff." The kind of people who "riff" alphabet songs like this one:
I is incendiary, like burning 'dozers J is for jail time, and other enclosures K is for kill, what they'll do if they catch you.
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Foreman is the author of Eco-Defense: A Field Guide to Monkey Wrenching. As the name suggests, the book is an instruction manual for illegal sabotage and how to get away with it. Foreman's "Confessions of an Eco-Warrior" justifies his life of zealotry by stating: "We humans have become a disease -- the Humanpox."
Foreman pled guilty to conspiracy after he was accused of providing the funds to blow up power lines leading to and from a nuclear power plant. Foreman wrote a check to buy grenades. Foreman left Earth First! in 1989 and founded the Wildlands Project, which seeks to restrict human civilization to limited patches of the Earth and wall off the rest for nature to rule. From 1995 to 1998 he served on the Sierra Club's board of directors. He is presently the publisher of Wild Earth, the periodical of the Wildlands Project.
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A major accomplishment of Earth First! has been to expand the environmental spectrum to where the Sierra Club and other groups are perceived as moderates. Earth First! co-founder Dave Foreman, in his book, Confessions of an Eco-Warrior
In some cases burning a target is the most effective way of decommissioning it. Former Sierra Club board member Dave Foreman, in his 1985 book, EcoDefense
5) I would think you would be "used" to this kind of behavior, you teach it to people, you encourage it, you nurture it. You smoke your bowl before the meeting to lose all inhibitions and "hang loose" in order for you to encourage others to behave in the same way.
Doesn't feel so hot to have YOUR passions passed off as a reaction to toxins your filling your body with, does it?
Your pretense that EF! is a noble cause is bull. It is nothing more than another branch of the multi-million dollar corporate drone, The Sierra Club. Money, money, money!
At least the capatalist corporations ADMIT that is what they want, and they even invite you along for the ride. Little does the average guy know how much money is available and used by the eco nut. Much more evil and insidious than the "evil and greedy" corporate "giants" are those who lie to the public with the aim that the end justifies the means.
Re: Earth First Roadshow Coming to Astoria « Reply #17 on Jun 29, 2009, 2:46pm »
Unreal!
Current editor of Oregon Chapter Sierra Club's newsletter the Oregon Conifer is Jim Flynn, previous editor of Earth First! Journal.
Disingenuous of Sierra Club to imply that they have little to do with one another or for EF to imply that they think Sierra Club is namby-pamby sellouts.
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LOL! I thought all you pot smoking, liberals had some edumacation (as long as we are trading crass, stereotypical, generalities). Big business is the "new" socialism, eh? And retired librarians in their sixties are "middle-aged"!!! 
Interesting talking point. Get enough media to byte into it and you just might pull it off. But doesn't it EVER bother you that YOU have become the very people you pretend to despise? Liars, spinners of truth, dream stealers?